Thursday, October 13, 2011

Blackamoors: Fabulous or Offensive?

       I would like to start this post , by saying , that I am not a Racist.I hope I do not offend any one. That is  not  my attention. If I do, I would like to say I am sorry, right now.I love Blackamoor sculptures for there beauty, history and decorative appeal. And after all, they are only statues, made long ago and not by my hand.
     Moor's were a type of black Africans that were captured and sold into slavery. Mostly on the European market and very heavily in Italy. They were Muslims and some were even found in Spain. They were often referred to as,"Nubian Slaves."
   Blackamoors have a long history in decorative art and it stretches all the way back to the 17th century. The trend seemed to have started in Italy and especially in Venice. The Moors  were sometimes used to steer the Gondola  boats and this is the earliest pictures we find of them. Statues  of Blackamoors in theses boats are very common.
   I am not sure how politically correct they come off nowadays, still, in design circles their true charm and decorative statements remains alive a well for the next generation. They are considered very, "Park Avenue."(New York.) Blackamoors enjoyed a surge of  popularity during the 20th century and are somewhat popular today. One does not see them that often in the Americans, but more so in Europe. Sometimes these statues can start tongues wagging, much as  a person wearing fur does. I am not sure how they became a  popular design motif, but their history through decorative arts is well documented.
   Blackamoor is a slang word that refers to dark skinned people, not so much today, but in the past.
    Most older Blackamoors were carved out of wood and covered in gesso and polychrome painted Some are made of bronze and other metals, while many are made of ceramic and porcelain. They were designed to  be mostly pedestals to hold candelabra or flowers. Some were tables and wall brackets. Smaller ones were often found as table decorations. There are so many of them in Italy that most people hardly even notice them.
   Blackamoors have been favorite decorative pieces for  antique collectors and interior designers for years. They were first created during the Italian Renaissance and became a favorite in the Victorian era.I have always had a thing for them. I guess the first ones I came across were in the movies. I  love to watch period movies , and to be taken back in time ,and experience the ancient world. I have seen places and things in the movies that I would never have seen other wise. I have had several Blackamoors in my days, as a collector and antique dealer. The first one I bought in an antique shop in Chicago. I paid $2,500.00 for it ,25 years ago and I had to put it in lay -a-way. I have bought and sold several since then. I am always sad when they sell and have to go hunt another right away. I guess I kinda feel, Blackamoor deprived. Sad ain't it. I have one today at, My Old Historic House. I bought her, here in rural Missouri, at an antique mall. I almost did not stop at this place, as I get tired going through all these big endless antique malls with booth after booth of junk and common stuff. I was on the road and needed a bathroom break, so I pulled off and went in. Well I almost wet my self when right inside the front door was my Blackamoor. They knew what it was and kinda what it was worth. I got it for a fair price and a lot less than the first one I  bought. I keep her in the entrance hall where I think she looks real pretty against the red and gray Toile wallpaper. She is one of the first things people see when they come for a tour. I am sure some people are shocked, but they have to realize, that she is just a sculpture.
   I hope you will come by some time to see Ms. Blackamoor and take a tour. I will leave the lights on and Sissy Dog will always meet you with a jump and a kiss.




A  polychrome painted necklace adorns Ms. Blackamoors neck.


Ms. Blackamoor welcomes guest to, My Old Historic House.



I love her red shoes and pants.



The Base is very Italian, looks like the Tower of Pisa.

81 comments:

Ivy and Elephants said...

Hi Richard,
I am not offended. I am loving the height of your statue. Blackamoors are amazing pieces of art. I collect the bronze statues and absolutely love them. The detail on them is amazing. My dream is to own a pair of 20th century bronze floor Blackamoor floor lamps for my dining room. That would be the piece de resistance. Thanks for sharing!

Paula
ivyandelephants.blogspot.com

Martha said...

She's a very good blackamoor. I have a couple that I've tired of and moved them to the basement -- but they'll be back. And they are very rare and very expensive!

Alison @ The Polohouse said...

Hi Richard!
I am not offended either. I had a couple Nubian candleholders years ago but have sold them since. They were repros though and went perfectly with my toile interiors and French decor that I had in my last home.
I know Charles Faudree uses them a lot in his interiors. You have such a high-end traditionally classic decor in your elegant home, your lovely Blackamoor definitely "works" there!

Perfection.
xx
Alison

Barbara F. said...

That is a stunning piece, Richard. I can't believe the height. I have never seen a statute like this before, very rare. xo

Anna at the Doll House said...

How interesting Richard. I am especially intrigued because I think I have only ever seen male Blackamoors.

Anna

Unknown said...

Nice! But I would love to see the painting in the background love them!Thanks for sharing your house,Joann

Marcia said...

Hi, Professor Cottrell! Every time I read your blog I feel like I'm in a college art history class! Love your blackamoor, your great photos, and your commentary!

PAINTORDIG.blogspot.com said...

Well I love it,it is an amazing piece of art.I enjoyed the lesson as always.I I have posted more photos of the pilgrimage. Kiss Sissy for me.

Anyes K. Busby - Studio Vignette Fine Art said...

Hello Richard,
I can understand why you started your post in a cautious way. But you have nothing to apologize for. History is history and you have a beautiful historic home comparable to a museum.
Blackamoors are an acquired taste, higher taste, on the level of caviar - there are things that are simply not for everyone. Well done.
Anyes
XX

Kathy said...

Wow, she is quite exquisite Richard! Living here in the deep south you never know how people will react. There are some pieces of pottery that depict the black folk in a terrible likeness - she does not. Thank you for sharing this rich history with us!
Kathy

lvroftiques said...

Absolutely fabulous!! And one of your pieces that I covet the most (Yes I know it's wrong but it's true) And that's saying something because you have so many beautiful things *winks* I have a dream of finding one for my own one day. Until then I'll just stop by and admire yours. Vanna

Babs said...

Richard, Thanks for sharing your beautiful Blackamoor and the history associated with the pieces. I remember seeing a bronze one on an British antique show, but have never seen one 'in person'.
Hope you have a great weekend and keep on sharing all your wonderful knowledge of antiques.
Babs

Sherry @ No Minimalist Here said...

Hi Richard, This is a wonderful piece and I have never seen one this large. I recently sold a beautiful blackamoor marble top table in my shop. I would have loved to have kept it...but I can't keep everything!
~ Sherry

xinex said...

She is pretty, Richard, and quite tall. Thanks for the history!...Christine

Victorian1885 said...

Thank you for sharing your history on the statue.. she is beautiful! I can't say I have ever seem a Blackmoors but now will know all the history around them if I ever do. Have a fantastic weekend!

Wanda

Charlotte Wilson said...

Richard,
She is beautiful! What are people thinking? It is history and truth. What in the world is wrong with that! People get me so mad sometimes with this political correctness!

Confessions of a Plate Addict said...

What an exquisite piece, Richard! I love the toile in the background, too! I am catching up a little...enjoyed the tour of your beautiful home! Hope you are having a great weekend!...hugs...Debbie

Debbiedoos said...

Hi Richard. I have to be honest and tell you I have never seen such a beautiful piece of art. I do not find it offensive at all...great piece. I learned something new today.

outjunking said...

Your post was very educational. I always enjoy the history we are given by your post. I thought she was lovely.
Lisa

Rosemary@villabarnes said...

No worries Richard. Statues don't offend me, people do, and you haven't done that. I think you have a beautiful piece of art. I've bought and sold blackamoors. I appreciate their craftsmanship. If I ever come to visit, I would love to meet her, and Sissy.

Priscilla said...

America is so over-sensitive on the subject of race. It seems one can't say or appreciate anything having to do with minorities without worrying about giving offense. Really, shouldn't we have gotten past this by now?

Anonymous said...

Hi,
I enjoyed this information on blackamoors. Like someone else said, I don't think I've ever seen or heard of a female statue before. She's spectacular and makes quite a visual statement in your entry.

What is she holding? Is there supposed to be a candle or light of some kind in her hand? Just curious.

Deb

Curtains in My Tree said...

your Ms Balckamoor was beautiful and looked perfect in your hall way greeting visitors

ladyestelle said...

I just adore Ms Balckamoor. I would love to come and visit her and take a tour of your lovely home.
I too, learn so much every time I visit your blog. Thank you for stopping by and giving me encouragement. I wish you well, kind Sir.

Anonymous said...

Interesting, you acknowledge the origin of these statues (depictions of Black Africans, Moors and/or Nubian slaves), yet you neglect to mention the horrific conditions under which they lived. As an African American woman and educator, I think it should be made clear how these and other depictions of people of African descent came about. No, I am not offended; I have several Blackamoors because I believe they should be in the hands of those they represent. Furthermore, I question anyone who starts off with "I am not a racist." Perhaps not, but there is greater depth and history to these statues.

Paul Edelstein Studio & Gallery said...

Hi I just bought an old master painting with a blackamoor in it. It looks like a royal painting. A woman is coming down a staircase and is greeted with her baby thatay have just been christened. Can I send u an image? It looks Spanish or Italian. Sincerely. Paul Edelatein Memphis Tn. 901/496-8122

Paul Edelstein Studio & Gallery said...

What is your email ? I can send u an image of the painting! -Paul

Sherri S said...

Beautiful Blackamoor and I am certainly NOT offended. I have collected a few myself but none so nice as yours. Thank you for sharing.

Unknown said...

I suspect whether there is offense taken has much to do, but certainly is not restricted to, whether or not your skin leans more toward a dark brown tone. For those who can't fathom why these statues might be offensive you might give a touch of study to the horrible conditions of slavery and the period in and immediately following those times for persons of African descent. I find the Black a moor statues mixed in as if they represent something as charming as a pet dog, chilling anf repulsive. These are from a time where people with dark skin were stolen from their homes, raped, beaten, and treated in a fashion that many of us, were we to learn of such treatment of a dear pet, would seek relief for that creature. Blackamoor is as appropriate in decor and statues of women being raped, bound or tortured, of Jewish people in Nazi conditions or of any other depiction of the ill treatment of any creature. If you would find a gilded statue of a spaniel chained to a tree or caged though depicted with a wagging tail to be adorable, then I suspect that a depiction of a human being in those conditions is charming to you as well. I find it a horrible hearkening back to a time that is thankfully past. I do love touring historic homes, especially the plantations of the South but in no sense am I able to remove from my mine the sacrifices of families of slaves torn apart, women raped, humans beaten so that such beauty might exist. I have over time learned to accept that to be a part of the story of the south and part of the ying and the yang on the beauty of old plantation. I was not a slave owner, I have not beaten raped nor kidnapped anyone yet it seems in poor taste, at best, to present as 'gentile' representations of times when practices of this kind were du jour. I find it morally difficult to see beauty in anything that suggests that enslavement of a human being might have decorative value. I love the work of Charles Faudree save for his use of black a moors in his designs... to me it is as undesirable as a bloodstain on a Chanel suit.

Esther Brook said...

Hi Richard,

Thank you so much for that insightful read. I am of African descent and I love Blackamoors! I have a pair of candelabras, and would love a small pedestal table.
I've been to Venice but must say that was before I fell in love with these decorative objects. Next trip I will certainly look for them.

Esther
Esthersessentials.blogspot.com

Linda Pace said...

I have a blackamoor decorative art piece that I would like to sell. It is of a woman. My aunt had it in her home for many years and I have now inherited it.
Please contact me for more information
lindampace@gmail.com

Linda Pace said...

I have a blackamoor decorative art piece that I would like to sell. It is of a woman. My aunt had it in her home for many years and I have now inherited it.
Please contact me for more information
lindampace@gmail.com

Unknown said...

for staters there's nothing for you to be sorry about this is history at its finest instead you should be applauded for sharing it. What you have to be sorry about is not telling the truth sir 'Black-A-Moors are people who brought art, music, literature, religion & this so called western civilisation to Europe... & pulled Europe out of the dark ages, these Moors were European conquerers, ulers, priests, teachers, architects, interllectuals, people of nobility etc... that is why you see the Moors art before the renaissance era they are depicted as Royals, Saints, Knights, Gladiators etc whilst at that time most of the Caucasiods were barbarians, just a few were servants, friends, allies etc. These Black-A-Moors ruled from Spain to Russia. Mr prof please get your facts right & teach the truth stop white washing history. Here are a few links to the truth 'The Russian Icons', 'Nature knows no color line' By J.A Rogers, 'Moors court of arms', then you tell me these people were slaves no sir for example Constantine, king James 1st & 6th, Hannibal etc they were all Great Black people who shaped the lives we live today they were'nt slaves. Black people & history was hijacked & enslaved after the renaissance era, that is why you see most Spanish, Italians, Portuguese etc they're black-haired blonde-face people its because their fathers were Moors & their mothers were of European descent, now thats history.

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Jennifer Suzanne said...

Hereford, I saw a pair of beautiful sconces in a shop, but I had a niggling feeling about them. I googled "Blackamoor" and found this site. They are lovely but since they are depicted carrying things, etc. it reinforces the servant (or worse, slave) attitude. I enjoyed your eloquent opinion.

Unknown said...

Hi, all. Just wanted to comment on the original post and the comments. I remember seeing blackamoors in various settings but not paying particular attention to them at any point until I purchased several design books featuring the interior decoration by the late Charles Faudree. I fell in love with the many blackamoors featured in his tablescapes and some of the larger, life size pieces peppered throughout these books. I saw an absolutely incredible blackamoor in an historic hotel in Alpine, Texas soon thereafter, and from that point was mad to find a bronze piece for my own home, but I never found one until a couple of weeks ago in a small antique mart in Dallas. After considering it quite deliberately for a day or two, I returned and made the purchase. He's beautiful bronze vintage piece, but I've got to say that I didn't make that purchase decision lightly because of all the baggage surrounding the issue of race relations and the issue of slavery in this country. I can easily see how un-PC this type of decorative art might be perceived in the eyes of not just a few people. The aspects in which these pieces were conceived and designed aren't lost me, but the beauty of so many of these items and care and craftsmanship in some of the bronzes remind me of the ancient figures carved in marble of heroic and historical figures which are on display in museums throughout the world. Many such carvings, however, are of the slaves and servers, warriors, and the common people who lived in those eras, and they are commemorated with the kings and heroes they served.

Sunray said...

Pricilla, when your race (Europeans/ people of European descent) have been stolen from their land, sold into slavery to members of another race for over 400 years, and are thought of and treated worse than animals in many cases to this very day, you tell me, would you be over it?

Sunray said...

Pricilla, when your race (Europeans/ people of European descent) have been stolen from their land, sold into slavery to members of another race for over 400 years, and are thought of and treated worse than animals in many cases to this very day, you tell me, would you be over it?

Unknown said...

Albinoid people are so peculiar and obsessive....I'm a Moor, although I would never want a statue of an albinoid in my house, to each their own....would you or any of you here like me to come stand in your doorway in moorish attire and hold your mail for you? I charge $3000 per hour and have a 1 hour minimum per contract. My silk robes and fine large turbans are expensive.

The Civil Exchange said...

This is not offensive, the Moors were the ruling class in Europe during the the Great Age and taught the Europeans everything they know, from architecture to navigating the seas to sanitation (most Europeans at the time had to be forced to bathe once a week). The rich culture and heritage we enjoy today came from the moors. It was only after the Moor defeat and Rome declaring open season

Unknown said...

I do not find this beautiful artwork offensive. If you ever take a trip to North Wales, to Penrhyn Castle you might find that offensive, I certainly do. It is an extravagant pile that was built on the suffering of Black sugar plantation workers, and White Welsh Slate Miners. When the Miners went on strike for better pay and conditions they were driven to the point of starvation.The pictures of plantation workers on the walls and the photo's of the Miners contrasted against the obscene extravagance made me feel sick and disgusted.

Unknown said...

No. Never. Ever. I collect although some fogures are racist..most Blackamoors were paid servants kings chieftans and the moors ruled ..educated and taught Europeans civility from thier barbaric ways..Spain is beautiful because of US...the highest price ever paid was a bust of a black russian courtier...993.000..it belonged to the Hapsburgs..last Emperor of Russia. One does not spend that kind of money to call a nigger...ahh but there will be no forgetting. No forgiving...is the holocaust forgotten
.Forgiven? No. To suggest it is insulting.dehumanizing.No apologies ..no restitution the Jews and Japanes did. No excuses..Blacks recieve more of the same. The debt MUST be paid. It is the law of the Universe ALWAYS collects its due.
The sins of the fathers...its the law.There can be no escape from it.The Universe demands it.

Unknown said...

No. Never. Ever. I collect although some fogures are racist..most Blackamoors were paid servants kings chieftans and the moors ruled ..educated and taught Europeans civility from thier barbaric ways..Spain is beautiful because of US...the highest price ever paid was a bust of a black russian courtier...993.000..it belonged to the Hapsburgs..last Emperor of Russia. One does not spend that kind of money to call a nigger...ahh but there will be no forgetting. No forgiving...is the holocaust forgotten
.Forgiven? No. To suggest it is insulting.dehumanizing.No apologies ..no restitution the Jews and Japanes did. No excuses..Blacks recieve more of the same. The debt MUST be paid. It is the law of the Universe ALWAYS collects its due.
The sins of the fathers...its the law.There can be no escape from it.The Universe demands it.

Teema said...

In fact, I'd prefer Moor over black anyday. You are so right, history is history.

Katnav said...

What an amazing responsee to an ignorant post.

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Unknown said...

That was wonderful. Just the thought that someone can have this insight and understand on this level, gives me hope for all of us.

Thank You

Unknown said...

Hello, Thank you for sharing you photos and history of your Blackamoor. I wandered in after reading about Princess Michael wearing her Blackamoor brooch to the Queen's Christmas luncheon today.There was a bit of a fuss by the snowflake brigade because Prince Harry's fiancee' was included on the guest list (she being of mixed heritage).
Personally, I think that if she wasn't offended ,why would the folks on the sidelines care? Usually those that cause the biggest fuss about any and all things "racially insensitive" are the whitest snowflake in the blizzard.
The craftmanship of her brooch is sublime,as is your lovely Blackamoor lady. These are beautiful depictions of proud ,and elegant emperors and statesmen. Why all the fuss,I ask?

JAM said...

So you’re here crying and being offended about people being offended? Guess you’re a member of the snowflake brigade. BTW people were concerned because Princess Micheal is the daughter of a Nazi and some thought her choosing to wear a brooch designed to depict a black servant to this event was an intentional dig at Ms. Markle’s race. I assume if that was the case you’d understand the outcry.

Anonymous said...

It's funny to Me how so many state how they are not offended. But NONE OF YOU ARE OF AFRICAN DESCENT. ASK ONE OF US MEANING BEING OF AFRICAN DESCENT AND SEE HOW WE FEEL ABOUT IT......WOW!!

SIGNED, OFFENDED

Sterlingbays88 said...

Yes, the Blackamoor statues, jewelry and other items exist in the world. They are beautifully crafted and have artistic merit. However, at their core, they represent some level of inhumanity and repression. I am a white male. If their modern day presence - despite their historical relevance - causes some to feel objectified and/ or degraded, perhaps it would be advisable not to flaunt such objects as art. Now, more than ever, we are living in a time when we need to not hurt people. We are not a hypersensitive world population - we are a human population and we should support and respect the feelings of those around us. If someone speaks up and states that others are hurting them with words and/ or actions - stop the words or actions. Those offended know exactly how they feel. We are a culturally diverse planet but we are one people. We all put our pants on the same way, pay bills and taxes and hope for happiness. The Blackamoor Brooch incident at the Royal Christmas Gathering was most likely an oversight - be it in poor taste. Meghan Markle is a stunning, smart lady and a lovely addition to the Royal Family - just ask the Queen.

Unknown said...

Thank you. I was struggling to figure out how to cuss this racist out. I'm so glad you said all the stuff I was thinking...but way nicer.

Unknown said...

Grammar Vigilant here. Line two of the original blog states "That was not my attention" when it should say "That was not my intention" - I realize the original blog dates back over six years ago but you are still receiving comments in 2018. That is why I bother.

Unknown said...

I just recently found out what Blackamoor is to my heritage. And I find it amazing how much people are willing to put in a statue that looks like my ancestors and not in the youth of the Moors. The constitution is what it is. However, justice will be served for my people. At least those who recognize their beauty. If only people my age understood and could take in the knowledge. Just maybe justice would come before they kill us and our children. In place of remembrance they will have statues and other items that reflect who WE are in their homes. It's just ironic to me. Why are we portrayed and why do we accept this lack of knowledge, yet others know of it's existence and is taught it's beauty. Repression, racism, and attitude are all things taught. This article and comments prove that tremendously. So, I guess we must re-teach those who have been taught wrong and teach those who have been taught nothing. Obviously, nobody else is going to do that for us, right? Public education and public services are only there in place for those who do not want control over their Natural Rights. Some people posting on here do not have those but know of them. This rant is over. Just displaying what I see on this article and how ignorant my people have became over the years. But also, how ignorant the other side of the spectrum is as well. It is so contradicting. 2018 changes need to be made.

Frost said...

I do think you'll feel better about displaying your Blackamoor if you read about their history. Black was not always synonymous with slave (in fact, the word "slave" comes from the word "Slav", the most enslaved ethnicity throughout recorded history, though Slavs are white). African Moors controlled Muslim Spain and had Spanish slaves in the Iberian Peninsula for 700 years. At this same time, African Barbary pirates also kidnapped Europeans and brought them to Africa to be slaves as eunuchs. Some people think blackamoors represented a desire for revenge and a wish to return the enslavement, which the Spaniards ultimately did in the Americas.

Unknown said...

I recently acquired a beautiful pair of Blackamoor Lamps. They were given to me by a close friend of mine who died . I had never seen any Blackamoor art but thought these ceramic Nubian figures were beautiful. The details and colors were gorgeous and the lamps were in perfect working order. My friend told me his sister had purchased these items on a trip to Italy while in Venice. From what I have researched it is apparent that many Blackamoors came from there in the 30’s. Should there be identifying marks of authenticity? I have scoured the internet for Antique stores that are selling Blackamoor lamps and none of them provide any pictures of marks, stamps or signatures...yet they are asking in the neighborhood of $2400/set for a pair similar to mine. Can anyone school me on this?

Unknown said...

Interesting info, I am in Europe and know that most come from Venice, I inherited one from my grand father so this is already over 150 years old, exactly how old it is have no idea. will post a picture of it if I can on here I love it, the art work is amazing my kids don't seem to like it sadly so am hoping that it will remain in the family. Last time I was in Venice I tried to find a shop that used to do them, but couldn't find it, most prob he closed down.

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Reggie said...

Fabulous or offensive? They are both actually. Fabulous, due to the venetian artists penchant for high style and craftsmanship that art lovers have admired for centuries. Offensive, due to depicting a whole race of people as subservient despite the royal robes. This type of sarcasm does not resonate well with people of African descent. Would statues of Marilyn Monroe only seen as a servant holding lamps have the same appeal? I wonder if blackamoor statues that defy notions of subservience have the same appeal to the author? Compare traditional blackamoor statues to those American artist Thomas Blackshear whose subjects clearly are not subservient, and thus, unfortunately have no appeal to mainstream viewers. Although the high stylization of blackamoor statues evoke an aura of regal dignity to the subjects depicted, it is only an illusion and cruel humor as well. However, if we speak of art,as far as style and craftsmanship are concerned and as an artist myself, I must still tip my hat to those Venetians and say "Molto Bene".

Unknown said...

Hi Richard
Wow! I have a similar piece (same face, but different pose) and I live in South Africa!
I inherited her from my parents who got her from my aunt. She was apparently a feature in the old Camps Bay Hotel lobby in Cape Town many years ago I believe. I was over the moon when my mom gave her to me all those years ago. She has been a part of my life for as long as I can remember and even featured in some of my baby pics of over 40 years ago. Never knew what she was though until recently. Would love to learn more about her history and value. Please feel free to contact me via email thewoodardspaarl@gmail.com

Unknown said...

Firstly I appreciate your post, but I have found many faults to your claims. If these Moors were indeed 'slaves' as you put them, then why would busts, statues, paintings, etc, be first constructed to depict those clearly of servants? One has to overstand that Nationality and Royalty is Jus Soli and Jus Sanguinis. Moors are European by birth right, and National Decree. Hence why one can find these items ALL over Europe. Architecture is another discipline of Moors which can be seen heavily in Europe. Charlemagne (Charles The Great) was himself a Moor of The Holy Roman Empire of the Western World. When you look to the East, to those that of the Byzantine Roman Empire. You will understand that they're one of the same people, the same status, the same royal bloodline and decree. I mean come on! Europe is named after a Moor Empress called Europa! Islam

Unknown said...

Sunray, I hate to be the one to educate you, but my Celt ancestors certainly were enslaved. Why is it that everyone believes that Africans were the only slaves? A peek into history will show that that simply isn't true. Also, sadly, most Africans were captured and sold by their own people. Pagans were enslaved and forced to build churches of the new religion: hence, the protective gargoyles and dragons atop. History is history and cannot be changed, whether you go through life mad, and wanting to hide facts... or interested and wanting to educate yourself. Either way, the history will still be there.

Jo said...

I am trying to understand how and others do NOT understand how offensive these are to us. They are like lawn jockeys, but for your regal homes. This comment will probably be deleted.

Jo1079 said...

Hi i think my nan has a statue very similar to yours and the family have always wondered what this lady is all about. All nan told me was about 50yrs ago whilst in sydney, Australia she saw her in an antique shop and bought her but my pop paid and picked her up and nan never found out what she cost as pop passed almost 30yrs ago.. I would love to be able to send you a pic and hopefully u could give me some insight into what era she was made and maybe also what she is worth.. I hopefully hear from you...

Chavez Moore said...

Only offended by the assumption the Moors were slaves.

Rascal Von Manor said...

The word for Pagan is Heide and it became derogatory for being used the same way as the N word. Originally Pagans were the South West Asian Mohren. The three wise men or The three Blacks were Pagans. I believe the word became derogatory towards Blackamoors (West African Negritiens). Nonetheless, the European Blacks (Mauren) felt it was best to enslave Pagans and bring them to the new world to be converted rather than leave them in West Africa.
Now you know, the Pagans were the Schwarze Mohren and not the Weisse (Whites).

Chavez Moore said...

An article from U.K archives...


Black Moors in Scotland

Africans have been present in Europe from classical times. In the 2nd and 3rd centuries Roman soldiers of African origin served in Britain, and some stayed after their military service ended. According to the historians Fryer, Edwards and Walvin, in the 9th century Viking fleets raided North Africa and Spain, captured Black people, and took them to Britain and Ireland. From the end of the 15th century we begin to see more evidence for the presence of Glossary - opens new windowBlack Moors in the accounts of the reign of King James IV of Scotland, and later in Elizabethan England.

King James IV (1473-1513) and the Black Moors of his Court
King James IV of Scotland came to the throne in 1488. He was an able and visionary monarch whose administration united and maintained order in the Scottish highlands and lowlands. He encouraged manufacturing and shipbuilding, and created a navy. James IV also renewed Scotland's alliance with France, although in 1503 he took an English wife, Margaret Tudor, daughter of Henry VII of England.

James was a popular, fun-loving king with many interests. Many Black Moors were present at his court. Some worked as servants or (possibly) slaves, but others seem to have been invited guests or musicians. We know that he courted Margaret with lute and clavichord recitals and took her out hunting and playing sports.



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After their marriage, the king's Lord High Treasurer's accounts provide numerous entries to show how much he enjoyed lively entertainment, employing foreign minstrels from Italy and elsewhere. King James was generous to all kinds of people, including Black Moors, as the following entries from the Treasurer's accounts demonstrate:

To celebrate Shrove Tuesday in 1505, several Africans including a Glossary - opens new window'taubronar' (drummer) and a choreographer were present in Edinburgh. Twelve dancers (including Italians) performed in specially made black-and-white costumes costing £13 2s 10d. Was this the origin of Morris (Moorish) dancing?

In 1504-5 the 'Moryen' taubronar was paid 28 shillings to allow his taubroun (drum) to be painted.

James bought a horse at a cost of £4 4s for this drummer, who accompanied him when he toured his northern domains.
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Moor women were also mentioned in the Treasurer's accounts. It is unclear whether or not they were servants, since they were showered with items such as gowns of satin, ribbons, slippers and gloves, paid for by the king.

Entries that refer to Moor women include:

'Blak Elene' or 'Elen More' was given five French crowns in 1512.

A 'blak madin' who attended Queen Margaret was given four-and-a-quarter ells (just over five yards) of French russet.

'Blak Margaret' was given a gown costing 48s in 1513.

'Two blak ladies' staying at the Scottish Court were presented with 10 French crowns as a New Year gift at a cost of £7.

In 1527, one item simply said ' to Helenor, the blak moir - 60 shillings' .
After James IV's death at Flodden in 1513 during the Franco-Scottish invasion of England, fewer references to Africans appear in the accounts. Interestingly, however, in 1594, during the reign of James VI, a richly attired Black Moor was paid to help pull the chariots during celebrations to mark the birth of James's eldest son, Henry Frederick. Nothing more is known about this man except that he lived in Edinburgh.

Rascal Von Manor said...

Not just Africans but also Blacks.
Let's not forget the Negermeisters who were Mayors of Weisse Sklaven.
Although they died a very violent death their title as Meister (Lord) is undeniable.

Unknown said...

Why would you be offended you're white

Unknown said...

unknown shut the fuck up

Unknown said...

Stop lying to your ignorant & arrogant selves, Black-A-Moors invaded Spain in 711 A.D then moved further into Europe gradually ruling almost every corner of Europe until the late 16th century when Europeans rebelled against their masters & teachers, that period in your history you call it the dark ages. They were not slaves or captured by nobody they were Europe saviours stop white washing history. They're the ones who built castles all over Europe, they even taught Europeans how to bath, not to sleep with their domesticated animals e.g cows, goats & chicken etc, they taught you medicine, wash & change clothes, how to read the stars & navigate the world. At that time they were regarded as royalty & of divinity. One more thing where have you seen slaves wearing expensive jewellery, crowns, make up & nice clothes, white people stop bullshi**ing yourselves & everybody who's still brain dead.
Read books & do some real research & stop this regurgitation of lies & myths like it's facts, & please stop this bullsh*t about Moor = Muslim, Moor means Black just like Negra, African etc.

You can start by teaching yourselves true history & knowledge with these books:

History of the Moorish Empire in Europe

By S. P. Scott (Author), Elizabeth Drayson.
The Black Rulers, Military Leaders, Clergy, and Moors Who Saved Medieval Europe Jimerson, Rufus O.

When Moors Ruled Spain by Gerald Brenan

Unknown said...

It's really unfortunate to see so many UNEDUCATED white people. For everyone about and for you (Richard) please educate yourself and practice more respect for African culture. The Moors where HIGHLY EDUCATED North African people that ruled MOST OF WESTERN EUROPE for over 800 years. You all don't understand the history of the Moorish Empire nor the Nubians. These people where not slaves they where educated pyramid builders, amazing mathematicians astronomers, the navigates the seas and oceans long before anyone in Europe. The made the first mas of the world from their travels. They BUILT THE HAG SOPHIA ARCHITECTUAL MARVEL. Hearing you alls blatant ignorance and dishonor of moorish people is completely heart breaking. In the age of information IGNORANCE IS A CHOICE. please wakup and LEARN ABOUT THE VAST HISTORY OF AFRICAN EMPIRES.

Unknown said...

It's really unfortunate to see so many UNEDUCATED white people. For everyone about and for you (Richard) please educate yourself and practice more respect for African culture. ALL OF THIS ABOUT THE MOORISH PEOPLE IS HISTORICAL INACCURATE... The Moors where HIGHLY EDUCATED North African people that ruled MOST OF WESTERN EUROPE (all of Spain, part of France and other areas) they ruled over Europe for over 800 years. You all don't understand the history of the Moorish Empire nor the Nubians. The nubian people are a completely different tribe of people that originated back in the days BEFORE Ancient Egypt and their culture continues today. The Moorish people where not slaves they where educated architects, amazing mathematicians, remarkable astronomers, they navigated the seas and oceans of the entire globe, long before anyone in Europe. The made the first world maps from their travels. They BUILT THE HAG SOPHIA ARCHITECTUAL MARVEL - TEMPLE DOME in Spain. Hearing you alls blatant ignorance and dishonor of moorish people is completely heart breaking. In the age of information IGNORANCE IS A CHOICE. please wakup and LEARN ABOUT THE VAST HISTORY OF AFRICAN EMPIRES.

Unknown said...

It's really unfortunate to see so many UNEDUCATED white people. For everyone above and for you (Richard) please educate yourself and practice more respect for African culture. ALL OF THIS ABOUT THE MOORISH PEOPLE IS INACCURATE... The Moors where HIGHLY EDUCATED North African people that ruled MOST OF WESTERN EUROPE (all of Spain, part of France and other areas) they ruled over Europe for over 800 years. You all don't understand the history of the Moorish Empire nor the Nubians. The nubian people are a completely different tribe of people that originated back in the days BEFORE Ancient Egypt and their culture continues today. The Moorish people where not slaves they where educated architects, amazing mathematicians, remarkable astronomers, they navigated the seas and oceans of the entire globe, long before anyone in Europe. The made the first world maps from their travels. They BUILT THE HAG SOPHIA ARCHITECTUAL MARVEL - TEMPLE DOME in Spain. Hearing you alls blatant ignorance and dishonor of moorish people is completely heart breaking. In the age of information IGNORANCE IS A CHOICE. please wakup and LEARN ABOUT THE VAST HISTORY OF AFRICAN EMPIRES.

Unknown said...

I am so sorry that so many white people have issues with practicing true empathy and understanding for the horrible history of slavery and rascism. I see you, I hear you, I honor you and I love you

Unknown said...

YES THANK YOU BEAUTIFUL SOUL FOR SHARING TRUE WISDOM

Anonymous said...

This will probably never be seen as I'm 4 yrs late to the party, but the reason some ppl "made a fuss" re: Queen's Christmas luncheon was NOT because of Meghan's racial identity! It was due to breaking of royal protocol. NO ONE has been invited before they were acttually married, not just engaged. Not Princess Diana, not Kate Middleton, and on & on.
And I'm confused by the reference to the "snowflake brigade." Do you mean white ppl, or ppl who are constantly looking for -- and always finding! -- something to be offended by?

Unknown said...

Hello I have a 7 foot lamp that I think is a 3rd cousin of your lamp. I would love to send images of my wood carved lampnfor your opinion

Unknown said...

Sorry to bust your bubble but these photos are of a ancient Persian lady (Mohrin/Black Female). You can tell by the lips and eyes.
Ancient Persians were originally dark black complexed and slowly started to turn White during their teenage yours. It begin with the lips and eyes turing pinkish in color.
A Blackmoor or Schwarze Maure was a Orientalen (Blacks) who colonized Afrika and no the were not enslaved. Only Nword (Mohren Pagans or Oceanic People) were enslaved.
Warm regards.

Danny A Boston said...

I just got a black moore lamp that stands about 6 feet tall with 4 lamps on top it is truly magnificant . If you would like some pictures of it I would be happy to send.